Tuesday, September 27, 2011

Looking for a shaolin kung fu summer camp in china, please help?

I'm looking for a place that accepts people for the summer to teach kung fu, chinese tradition, and just shaolin peaceful life style. I want the place to be real monks and not westernized, but just like in the movies (this is not the reason i want to go there, im just describing how it is) where they are in the mountains etc.|||I studied Kung fu in Hong Kong which is more open to Gwei lo's ( westerners, although it actually means Ghost person)


in China you can go to Hunan in the west, where the Shaolin temple is. unfortunately these only teach Wushu, which isn't traditional Kung Fu. it's a stylised version of an amalgamation of different styles,developed in the 70's and more suited for display purposes than fighting application. although if you want to learn about chi cultivation, it's the place to go.


In Guangdong province (canton) you can try the Wah Sau toi temple on Loufoushan mountain, many traditional styles came from here and are still practiced today. it's most definately not wushu.


both places have real monks, and you would learn about chi, meditation, and taoism/buddhism





you won't learn much in a summer to be honest, and don't expect to learn any weapons or "kung" ( iron fist, iron palm, iron leg, shirt etc etc.) if you want to learn real kung fu, try a little town in Guangzhou called Lam Tong...you would learn Lung ying( dragon style-which I studied), Bak Mei ( white eyebrow-as used by Pai Mei in kill bill) these are 2 of the most devastating southern kung fu styles ever conceived and are rooted in tradition. email me if you want more info|||These societies are very closed off and you can't like call them or write you would have to make a pilgrimage. You might want to go to Thailand or Brazil.|||Couple of things . . . if you were able to find such a place, do you have the language skills to benefit from it?





Next, you might want to check out the website http://www.shaolin.com. It has pretty comprehensive information on the shaolin tradition.





There is a FAQ section with the following question and answer:





18. I want to study at the Shaolin Temple in China. Can you give me more information?





"Unfortunately, the Shaolin temples were destroyed in the 1920's. Recently, the Chinese government decided to refurbish the temple at Honan. While martial arts are studied there today, this is a recent re-emergence into the arts. Our contacts who have visited the Honan Temple (1985, 1988, and 1999) report that what is taught is mostly Wushu and T'ai Chi Ch'uan. Most of our contacts who have visited the Temple believe it is more a trendy tourist point (and, yes, a good place to learn wu shu-but NOT kung fu) than a real effort to restore the arts outlawed by successive Chinese governments from 1901 until 1990.





"Jon Funk (Black Belt, March, 1996:21) has written a controversial article entitled "The Shaolin Temple Hoax." Because of the number of letters we receive about "the return of Shaolin Masters" to the tourist-dedicated, refurbished Honan Temple, we felt obliged to publicize Mr. Funk's laudatory effort. Our primary sources for this Web-Page are exiled Shaolin monks (or the diaries left behind by those who passed away in the 1970s), who assure us that Mr. Funk is right-on-the-mark about the complete absence of anything even remotely akin to bona fide Shaolin arts being taught at the Honan Temple today.





"Because so many of our letters are written by people who believe that the Temple is now offering genuine Shaolin arts (despite our protestations about "who do you think expelled/killed the old Shaolin in the early twentieth century?"), we quote a short, but important, part of Mr. Funk's article:





"The Chinese government, it should be remembered, is communist, and doesn't want a religious group generating any ideas that don't conform to the party line."





"There is always going to be a gullible audience for "too-good-to-be-true" claimants. We are delighted that a source who is completely independent of our own, has come forward in such a prestigious and public forum as Black Belt magazine to substantiate our caveat.





"Although the Chinese government believes that the mere presence of martial arts instructors at the Honan temple lends them legitimacy, we find it as unlikely as the current attempt by the same government to countermand the Dalai Lama's choice for the reincarnated Panchen Lama. The last of the genuine Shaolin practitioners either fled the country or were killed during the civil wars of 1900-1931."





Good luck on your endeavors!

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