What is the Chinese Kung Fu history of Karate?

I know Karate is essentially Okinawan Te and Chinese Kenpo or Kung Fu.


In Shotokan Karate these Kata have Chinese origins.


1. K奴sank奴 - White Crane Kung Fu


2. Passai - Leopard Kung Fu


3. Uns奴 - Dragon Kung Fu


4. S艒chin - Dragon Kung Fu


5. Chinte - Chinese but unknown


6. Nij奴shiho- Dragon Kung Fu


7. Naihanchi - Chinese but unknown. However some say White Crane boxing


8. Enpi - Chinese boxing





Of course these are rumours or hearsay





Wikipedia- Shotokan kata|||As others have said, there is much incorrect information on Wikipedia. In fact there is much incorrect information almost anywhere you look on the internet.

The problem with your question is much more problematic for two main reasons. First there are hundreds of Kung-Fu styles in existence, and most were taught in secret, as are many high level techniques, in many styles of martial arts. The second problem is that much of the history was not written down. It is easy to find contradictory views of the origin of martial arts. Many people debate are the origin of certain Kata. Others debate who the founder of Taekwondo is. There are many more examples. Then there are things about the history of the martial arts that as assumed, but not true. The reason why Gichin Funakoshi was selected as the Okinawan master to introduce Karate to the Japanese, is one major example. As far as I know, there is no written text saying why Funakoshi was selected. but a few masters in Okinawa still tell a very different reason why Funakoshi was picked. Bottom line here is that many people (me included) assumed that Funakoshi was picked because he was one of the best Karate masters at that time........ but that is not why he was picked.







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@ksnake10 I really wish that people would not keep saying that Karate in Okinawa came from Chinese Kung-Fu. It makes it look like the Okinawans learned Kung-Fu then started calling it Karate. That is far from the truth. While Chinese martial arts had a strong influence, it was not and is not the whole of Karate. The Okinawans had their own martial arts which were influenced by Chinese arts. Care must be taken when writing about the martial arts. To often members post things that are either incorrect, or the wording is easily misunderstood. That is one reason why many members incorrectly state that Karate is from Japan.........



....|||Look, you have no question here.

And there is no real information, wikipedia has obviously not got a lot of shotokan practitioners on it...

And also I notice a lot of the kata you listed are nothing like the martial arts you listed, for example, Empi, is nothing like boxing, chinese or otherwise.

No offense, but this is just a lot of bullshit by people who know nothing about shotokan.

Mate, seriously, do a little Research, it's actually a really interesting topic



Good luck.



Sorry if that sounded a little harsh, when I saw your user name I realized you are the guy who is doing Research on karate and Aikido. I'm glad you are researching so thoroughly.



Good luck...again...|||Okinawans learned kara-te (empty hand) from trade with the Chinese. One of the earliest Chinese empty hand styles was Chuan Fa (Shaolin Temple Boxing). During this time, the Japanese already had a number of martial arts with little or no Chinese influence. Later, the Okinawans introduced their martial arts to a Japanese people that already had Japanese jujitsu styles from the samurai. Over time, the Japanese martial artists learned from each other and styles borrowed from one another. Many Japanese kenpo systems are a combination of Chinese, Okinawan, and Japanese martial arts.|||who ever wrote that list on wikipedia is an idiot and parts of it is wrong.



unsu, soshin, nijushiho, and there was one others was brought to shotokan bu araigaiki sensei,



nahanchi is more thought of as a 2 man tiger form, not a white crane form broken up by anko itosu, there was several possible names of chinese origins for this kata including but not limited to mafuchin, mohochin, nohanchin, and several others from either norther tiger style or a crane style.



kusanku there are 4 versions of this kata brought over by the envo and was later created by his students or possible kusanku himself.



chinte one iof the oldest forms along with naihanchi, chinte is also a weapon in kobudo, i often wonder if the 2 are linked



ill have to get my notes out for more details|||At this point in time all these styles have their own identities.



for example here is dragon style Kung Fu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkHqzKCBn鈥?/a>



here is Nijushiho

http://wn.com/Nij奴shiho



Do you see any resemblance within these two forms?|||Noted, but what is your question? Perhaps, by rephrasing your captioned, we can understand what you are asking.